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Genevieve Waite, third wife of Papa John Phillips and mother of Bijou Phillips, has died

She died in her sleep, per an Instagram post from Bijou.

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by Anonymousreply 97June 24, 2019 7:46 PM

71 and died in her sleep. There must have been an underlying health issue.

by Anonymousreply 1May 21, 2019 2:08 AM

Crazy, drug-addled weirdo. Did drugs the entire time she was pregnant with Bijou, and was on Dilaudid when Bijou finally had enough in Gen's polluted womb and decided to get out of there prematurely. Bijou never really stood a chance with those two deviants as parents.

by Anonymousreply 2May 21, 2019 2:11 AM

She was no Genevieve Bujold.

by Anonymousreply 3May 21, 2019 2:15 AM

Her only album "Romance is on the rise" from 1974 is actually quite good.

by Anonymousreply 4May 21, 2019 2:19 AM

Tam joined the Krishna's or some similar group, honestly, the poor kid was a forgotten commodity while growing up. Genevieve was a spacey self centered person and gave her children sporadic love when it was convenient to her.

by Anonymousreply 7May 21, 2019 2:22 AM

Did she ever re-marry of have a long term boyfriend?

by Anonymousreply 8May 21, 2019 2:23 AM

Didn't Michelle raise those kids?

Bijou is a full fledged Scientologist now, which is bizarre given how she was so free spirited at one point.

by Anonymousreply 9May 21, 2019 2:33 AM

She did a movie (google it ) Joanna? by the same director of the esteemed Myra Breckinridge.

by Anonymousreply 10May 21, 2019 2:36 AM

I saw her in concert at Reno Sweeney in 1975. I don't remember anything about the evening but I do remember I liked it. A few nights later I saw her and Phillips walking on 57th st and I complimented her on the show. She seemed genuinely pleased to hear that.

by Anonymousreply 11May 21, 2019 4:20 AM

As an actress, Waite was an acquired taste, but “Joanna” is a guilty pleasure of mine. And in the interesting “Move”, she’s actually quite effectively cast as someone who (Spoiler Alert) may be a literal dream girl. Her long scene with Elliott Gould which gradually becomes a post-coital argument is very good.

And has been mentioned above, “Romance Is On the Rise” is a fine album.

by Anonymousreply 13May 21, 2019 4:27 AM

She’s the one who spent her entire marriage with John Phillips shooting cocaine and heroin with John and Keith Richards and Anita Pallenberg, right? I remember their house being like a ghetto shooting gallery with needles and drug paraphernalia everywhere. (And Anita recently died too.)

by Anonymousreply 14May 21, 2019 4:48 AM

I knew her through Bijou. She was a sad mess. The only thing sadder is that Bijou, one of the most fucked up people on the planet is now someone's Mother.

by Anonymousreply 15May 21, 2019 5:18 AM

She wasn't talented or good looking, but she had a huge capacity for drugs.

by Anonymousreply 16May 21, 2019 5:46 AM

Good riddance. She spat out the vile little homopbobe creature that is Bijou (who is a scientologist now so likely has not reformed her views.)Too bad Daniel Franzese didn't punch her nasty little pinched face in. Bijou is a feral, smelly Skank who will probably eventually succumb to kidney failure.

by Anonymousreply 18May 21, 2019 3:40 PM

Michelle had custody of Tam off and on for a few years. She tried hard to keep him away from John and Genevieve, but the courts sent him back to his junkie parents.

by Anonymousreply 20May 21, 2019 7:20 PM

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by Anonymousreply 21May 21, 2019 7:31 PM

Waite, Waite, don't tel me!

by Anonymousreply 22May 21, 2019 7:56 PM

[quote]As an actress, Waite was an acquired taste, but “Joanna” is a guilty pleasure of mine.

Odd little 60s London film.

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by Anonymousreply 23May 21, 2019 8:23 PM

Wow - she lived a long time for a junkie. Good genetics.

by Anonymousreply 24May 21, 2019 8:31 PM

Agreed, R23, and Donald Sutherland is very good in “Joanna”.

The director of “Joanna”, Michael Sarne, (who went on to direct the legendary “Myra Brenckenridge”), went on record as saying he did not want Waïte to play Joanna, much preferring the beautiful Gabriella Licudi, his girlfriend at the time. But Fox execs preferred Waïte because of her resemblance to Twiggy.

There is a very interesting article in Google Books from “New York” magazine about Waïte, Sarne and producer Michael Laughlin at the Cannes Film Festival in support of the film.

by Anonymousreply 25May 21, 2019 8:38 PM

[quote]and Donald Sutherland is very good in “Joanna”.

His English accent is the most memorable thing about his performance - see the clip @ R23 - you'll never forget it

by Anonymousreply 26May 21, 2019 8:40 PM

Genevieve - before going to Cannes 1968

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by Anonymousreply 27May 21, 2019 8:42 PM

When "Joanna" was screened for the critics in New York, the final scene, when Joanna about to board the train out of London calls out "Don't worry - I'll be back!" -apparently the audience shouted "NO! NO!"

by Anonymousreply 28May 21, 2019 8:49 PM

[quote]My mother’s role in Johanna was ground breaking for racial divides..

TRUE. Joanna fucked a black guy.

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by Anonymousreply 29May 21, 2019 8:53 PM

That’s how I want to go.

by Anonymousreply 30May 21, 2019 8:56 PM

Bijou was put into foster care?

[quote] I grew up knowing what shooting up and heroin and coke and AA was by the time I was my little girls age. I was already in foster care and already aware of the horrors of drugs and child abuse living with other kids who’s stories make my life look tame and safe.

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by Anonymousreply 31May 21, 2019 8:59 PM

Bijou is the mirror image of Greta Scacchi.

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by Anonymousreply 32May 21, 2019 9:01 PM

I think Bijou looks just like her mom in the late-60s.

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by Anonymousreply 33May 21, 2019 9:07 PM

Poor Bijou, rotten start in life.

Genevieve had a strange charm.

by Anonymousreply 34May 21, 2019 9:10 PM

The NO! NO! thing was apparently Cannes.

[bold]At the Cannes Film Festival, at the end of "Joanna" (which opened yesterday at the Cinema I), when Joanna cried, "This ain't the end, you know. I'm coming back," part of the audience shouted "No! No!" [/bold]

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by Anonymousreply 35May 21, 2019 9:11 PM

When she was cast in the starring role of Joanna, she'd apparently only arrived in London, age 19, from South Africa a few weeks earlier. This is a very Swinging London type story.

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by Anonymousreply 37May 21, 2019 9:16 PM

Joanna departs London.

"This ain't the end, you know. I'm coming back!"

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by Anonymousreply 39May 21, 2019 9:19 PM

The trouble with Joanna was that it didn't know whether it was the '60s or the '20s >

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by Anonymousreply 42May 21, 2019 9:26 PM

If Bijou's a homophobe, why did she post this?

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by Anonymousreply 45May 21, 2019 9:41 PM

I don't mean to be unkind, we all get older and I certainly ain't the gorgeous spring chicken I once was, but it is so strange to see women like Genevieve and Michelle carrying extra weight. Just because they were both once so petite. Our bodies are so weird, the way they slow down.

by Anonymousreply 48May 21, 2019 9:48 PM

The apparent homophobia someone mentioned earlier.

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by Anonymousreply 49May 21, 2019 9:52 PM

[quote]I don't mean to be unkind, we all get older and I certainly ain't the gorgeous spring chicken I once was, but it is so strange to see women like Genevieve and Michelle carrying extra weight. Just because they were both once so petite. Our bodies are so weird, the way they slow down.

Not healthy to be too thin when you're old.

by Anonymousreply 50May 21, 2019 9:53 PM

Loved her album (and Joanna), was disappointed at her victim-blaming of Mackenzie.

by Anonymousreply 51May 21, 2019 10:16 PM

Glad to see that “Joanna” has its fans — I’m one of them, too. Certainly not classic cinema, but definitely a product of its time. And while Waïte was never going to make Vanessa Redgrave look over her shoulder, she could be very effective.

by Anonymousreply 52May 21, 2019 10:39 PM

Her voice reminds me of Barbara Cook's.

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by Anonymousreply 53May 21, 2019 10:46 PM

All I can hear in that song is Butterfly McQueen.

Since I'm simultaneously posting on a Michelle Phillips thread, who do we think was the greater love of John's life? Couldn't have been easy for Gen to follow Michelle, though they seemed to end up on cordial terms.

by Anonymousreply 54May 21, 2019 10:50 PM

Contrast and compare.....

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by Anonymousreply 55May 21, 2019 10:54 PM

"Since I'm simultaneously posting on a Michelle Phillips thread, who do we think was the greater love of John's life?"

Himself.

by Anonymousreply 56May 21, 2019 11:33 PM

Heroin isn't the most destructive drug to the body. I mean it doesn't need to be. Hep C and alcohol were poisons that often came with it. But there used to be good smack around for rich folks. I believe it teflon coats the interior of richer addicts and they become a bit cyborg. That is why they live so long. I know some solid life long rich junkies. Marianne Faithful alludes to this when she explains her heavy junkie years, sitting on a wall outside all 4 seasons in the English damp and never getting sick.

by Anonymousreply 57May 21, 2019 11:48 PM

‘Genevieve lay bleeding in my basement...’

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by Anonymousreply 59May 22, 2019 3:20 AM

John Phillips had enough talent in him to be remembered along with Dylan and Lennon. Instead, he is barely remembered at all. Such a sad, pathetic waste, and no one but himself to blame.

by Anonymousreply 60May 22, 2019 3:44 AM

Now Bijou's grandma died. She's having a rough few days.

by Anonymousreply 62May 22, 2019 6:41 AM

Here's a truly bizarre clip of 1970s Genevieve, John Phillips, and Ara Gallant eating moo-shu pork.

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by Anonymousreply 65May 22, 2019 6:09 PM

Interesting clip, R65!

Genevieve’s baby voice was one thing when she was a pretty starlet, I wonder if it ever deepened as she got older. Can’t imagine that voice emanating from an older gal!

by Anonymousreply 66May 22, 2019 7:28 PM

the daughter is said to be a monstrous bully of a bitch.

by Anonymousreply 68May 23, 2019 11:48 PM

Bijou was a hellion growing up, but I think she's calmed down. The story about her pestering Daniel Franzese about his sexuality on the set of Bully is small potatoes IMO—definitely cunty of her, but unforgivable? I don't know. I don't see any other evidence of her being a "homophobe," although she is a $cientologist, which raises a lot of red flags for me. Do we know if she ever got Genevieve to join the "church"?

by Anonymousreply 69May 25, 2019 12:41 AM

R69 I'm not sure if kicking somebody in the back of the head is "small potatoes ". Granted people can grow and change but she wasn't a child when she did these things. Bijou 's behavior during that time was pretty egregious. Brad Renfro and some of the cast members actually had to tell her to cut it out. Speaking of Bijou there were a couple of rape accusations against her husband about a year ago but the story seems to have been shuffled aside.

by Anonymousreply 70May 25, 2019 12:49 AM

I met Genevieve knew in New York during the '90's. She was a battered mess. Bijou would hang out at the club Spy. She was also nuts. One night Bijou almost cut off someones finger with a cigar cutter. She also stole a credit card number and charged $20,000 on it but was a minor so she couldn't be prosecuted. Her Father thought it was funny because like his daughter, he was a lowlife. She also got some very powerful person's daughter hooked on some drug, maybe heroin, I think and the girl's Father who was connected almost had a hit put out on her, so Bijou wisely left town. I think that's when she became a Scieno.

by Anonymousreply 71May 25, 2019 1:16 AM

R71 - Was it Casey Johnson? She was tied to Bijou and the Hiltons just before she died.

by Anonymousreply 72May 25, 2019 1:23 AM

Who the fuck was Ara Gallant? Some drug dealing hippie???

by Anonymousreply 73May 25, 2019 1:35 AM

R71 it's a shame Bijou didn't OD rather than River Phoenix. He still had so much to offer, unlike the 3 o clock slop.

by Anonymousreply 74May 25, 2019 1:42 AM

R72. Poor Casey died after being cut off by her parents. Very sad.

by Anonymousreply 75May 25, 2019 1:58 AM

R70 I didn't recall that part, but r.e. her obnoxiously asking him if he was gay in front of the other cast—rude? Absolutely. I'm sure it made him uncomfortable. But should she necessarily be vilified for that 20 years later? Every gay person (myself included) has had that kind of moment where someone calls out something about us that we're unwilling to. It's part of the pain of growing up--it's life. I had similar things happen as a teenager and don't hold it against those people. They were immature. People grow up. It just seemed petty for him to dredge that up, especially when there's no real evidence of her being a homophobe. Given her parents' lifestyles and social circles, I'm sure Bijou grew up around gay people her entire life.

by Anonymousreply 76May 25, 2019 1:58 AM

Genevieve was a loose as a goose hippie who never grew up. Too much free love and drugs. Her children are living proof she was a self indulgent woman.

by Anonymousreply 77May 25, 2019 2:42 AM

Very interesting, R71 — thank you for sharing! Any specific Genevieve Waite stories?

by Anonymousreply 78May 25, 2019 2:58 AM

Good thing she's dead. Imagine a daughter known as 3 O'Clock Slop.

by Anonymousreply 79May 25, 2019 3:01 AM

She was married to a man that was fucking his own daughter. Pretty much says it all.

by Anonymousreply 80May 25, 2019 3:08 AM

Her voice made Melanie Griffith sound like Arnold Schwarzenegger. There's no way I could endure a whole album/movie of that.

by Anonymousreply 81May 25, 2019 3:20 PM

Thank you r65 for posting that YT link. I got a kick out of it. It feels almost like being there.

by Anonymousreply 82May 25, 2019 6:10 PM

Was Casey Johnson cut off from her parents, R75? I recall her dying as a result of her type 1 diabetes and thinking it was kind of sad because it was totally preventable. I'm a type 1 diabetic too and know the ins and outs of that disease. She apparently never took insulin, which will wreck your body pretty swiftly and send you into a hyperglycemic coma. It's quite tragic that someone with that much familial wealth and unlimited access to healthcare would choose to not take care of her health condition. I know she hung around with that partygirl crowd that Bijou was enmeshed in in the mid-2000s—Lohan, Hilton, Tara Reid, etc.

by Anonymousreply 83May 26, 2019 12:57 AM

I liked “Joanna”, and Waite was interesting in “Move”. Wonder if other film offers came her way during those early years.

by Anonymousreply 84June 14, 2019 3:39 AM

I partyed with her and papa john in la in the seventys

they were nasty

by Anonymousreply 85June 15, 2019 3:40 PM

Did John Phillips fuck Bijou as well?

by Anonymousreply 86June 15, 2019 3:55 PM

I just watched “Myra Brenckenridge” (don’t judge, DL!) which has separate commentary tracks by Raquel Welch and director Michael Sarne. Waite has a cameo in the film, and in Welch’s commentary, she refers to Waite as Sarne’s wife (not true), the star of his previous film, “Joanna” (true) and bitchily adds that “she was famous for about a minute and a half!”

by Anonymousreply 89June 21, 2019 6:56 PM

I read that she was supposed to be in Nicolas Roeg’s “The Man Who Fell to Earth” until Roeg and John Phillips got into a fistfight (!) after which she was replaced by Candy Clark.

by Anonymousreply 90June 24, 2019 1:02 PM

And on the 33rd day she rose again, on the DL!?!?

by Anonymousreply 92June 24, 2019 1:13 PM

Who is the self-loathing was case here who is making excuses for Bijou?

by Anonymousreply 93June 24, 2019 1:18 PM

R93 There were also some comments making excuses for the filthy 3 o clock slop on another thread discussing Bijou 's bullying. Sort of like Stockholm syndrome. She is a genuine psychopath, there are plenty of stories out there about this nasty pig.

by Anonymousreply 94June 24, 2019 1:32 PM

She was no Genevieve Page!

by Anonymousreply 95June 24, 2019 3:07 PM

No, fuckface R6. I meant WEHT.

R5

by Anonymousreply 96June 24, 2019 3:12 PM

Regarding the link at R49, Bijou Phillips and Danny Masterson sound made for each other.

Genevieve Waite was really pretty for a while, some of the Avedon photos of her are beautiful, but she really hit a wall later.

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